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earthycouple -> RE: Saline Injections (5/24/2007 11:51:54 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MrDiscipline44

Doesn't the local pharmacy have it? I believe enema kits come with it. But I maybe wrong there or that fluid may not be for intravenous use.


Enema saline is not for saline injections....and saline injections are not given Intravenously.  You really need sterile saline which can be purchased at pharmacies and saline injections are given subcutaneously...meaning under the skin...i.e. scrotum




earthycouple -> RE: Saline Injections (5/24/2007 11:54:13 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Absolutemaster

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ORIGINAL: SexyStrega

To do a saline infusion for the scrotum, it is easy enough- just find a portion ofthe sac that is all skin, wipe with alcohol and then insert needle into the skin.  Start the infusion slowly to make sure that you are indeed int he scrotum, not still in skin and once in, infuse about 500 ml slowly.




I have never done this, and have no desire to do it, but just out of interest...

What happens to the infusion?  Is it absorbed, or does it have to be drained again?


This is akin to having an IV infiltrate which means that the IV is out of the vein and going into subcutaneous tissue (just under the skin) and the body will absorb it over time.




earthycouple -> RE: Saline Injections (5/24/2007 11:56:35 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Emperor1956

FR, with a couple of things:

All this talk about giving the injection is misplaced:  The placement of the catheter for saline infusion is critical.  Managing the infusion is critical.  How you give the little needle jab -- not so critical.  May I suggest if you are nervous about your "shot giving technique" you (1) have no clue what is involved, as saline inflation is infusion not injection and (2) you (and your intended victim) have bigger worries.  That's very true

That said, Tigress is right, a tomato is a lot closer to human skin than an orange and therefore better to practice on.  For that matter, a defuzzed peach is perfect.   Also valid

Puella, you raise a very valid question about how much information should one give out on an anonymous website/listserve and you hint at the moral culpability of a person who gives the info, and then some reader (i.e. moron) uses the info to hurt someone.  Might I suggest that generalized information is not harmful, and might even help?  Further, I think there is NO moral culpability if one posts information, with appropriate disclaimers, and then some third party (read:  moron) abuses another.  Google "Scrotal infusion".  Tell me if a bit of CM advice really matters?   Exactly

For god's sake, don't use "enema solution" or ANYTHING that isn't labelled 0.9% Sterile Saline solution.  GOT THAT?   0.9% Sterile Saline.  Sheeeeesh.  How hard can that be?  There are probably 4000 suppliers on the Web, and unless you live in bumfuckville, 40 within a short drive of you.  If you pay more than $3.00/500 ml you are getting ripped.  If only I had read your post before doing mine....you are a smart guy, Emperor!

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whisperedsighs -> RE: Saline Injections (5/24/2007 2:49:19 PM)

The saline is absorbed by the body. 

I have a friend who has done saline injections upon several occassions.  She is fully trained on the procedure and had a person there who is a medical professional as backup. 

I would suggest before anyone attempts this procedure to do more then looking on message board forums for how to and advice.  Best bet is to go to a hands on seminar, given by someone who is qualified to make you fully aware of all risks factors involved.




Nicestmaster -> RE: Saline Injections (5/24/2007 3:41:03 PM)

Thanks all for the good advice and all taken onboard-particularly about being snappy. My bad. I was particularly asked aboutinjecting the labia,breasts andbuttocks.
Didn't reply earlier as I'm in a different time zone.
Thanks




LightHeartedMaam -> RE: Saline Injections (5/24/2007 7:16:29 PM)

Are you looking for something like this?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_561280/mpage_1/key_saline/tm.htm#561550

Edited because I just saw your last comment.  Infusing the labia is a bloody mess!  Literally! :)




Sirandlittle1 -> RE: Saline Injections (5/24/2007 9:30:30 PM)

My advice would be, to have the technique shown you, in real life, by a experienced person. Also to discuss likely events. Good and bad. Safety precautions. That coupled with some reading up on anatomy and physiology, so you know what veins to miss, and where they are. Also, where the majoy nerves are and how to avoid them. What to do if you hit one of these accidently.

I was taught all of this before i got to stick needles into somebody. Seems sensible to me. I dont consider any of what i was taught superfluous to need.
A forum, is NOT the educational tool you wish it could be. It can help, but not replace professional advice from an experienced practitioner.

Sir will be providing me with a injection tonight. Happens that i must have shots each week. Today, he gives me the first one. We thought we'd have a bit of fun with a otherwise, unpleasant part of treatment. I have ensured that he has the necessary knowledge to do so safely. Im the one with the knowledge, being asked for and accepted by her Sir. My safety superceedes any D/s dynamic.

the info is out there, there are many people in this lifestyle willing to help us newbies get started in realising their fantasy's.
Good luck
little1




ennaozzie -> RE: Saline Injections (5/24/2007 10:00:52 PM)

Might I remind you that people are also allergic to some strange things that most people are not allergic to, and they may not know it, are you prepared for the consequences of what you inject? 

I am not talking general needle play where nothing in injected obviously but thought it a mention anyway but you mentioned injecting saline I know its just a salt solution but I have come across some people that are allergic to some weird stuff that is in every day stuff, and have ended up in hospital.
 
beanie




Emperor1956 -> RE: Saline Injections (5/25/2007 9:14:44 AM)

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earthycouple:   If only I had read your post before doing mine....you are a smart guy, Emperor!


Your posts show a good grasp of the medicine, too, and are level headed.  That said:

Thank you ma'am, and may I have another?  *GRIN*

E.




SexyStrega -> RE: Saline Injections (5/25/2007 3:08:37 PM)

I am an RN with 25 years of experience.  The saline in an enema kit is a hypersaline solution- very bad to inject in the body.  I was not giving specific instruction about how to do it-only a fool would take the few sentences I wrote and apply it in real life without someone else with experience there to either demonstrate or assist.  The saline is absorbed by the body in about 3 days depending on the amount and the person involved's ability to absorb it.  If you want big balls, do it on Friday night so you have a chance of being normal come Monday- at least, normal enough to fit into your work clothes. 
I was trying to point out that in general, it is essential to avoid solid body parts, like testicles, when doing this type of thing.  And yes, as a technique, it is easy to learn- but make sure that the person who teaches you has experience.




SexyStrega -> RE: Saline Injections (5/25/2007 3:10:48 PM)

As to being allergic to normal saline- it is what our blood saline levels are supposed to be, and it is used across the board for IV's.  The important thing abou tdoing this is to make sure that you have STERILE supplies and STERILE IV fluids.  




ennaozzie -> RE: Saline Injections (5/25/2007 4:22:22 PM)

Hygiene when it comes to injections is good advice, personally if it comes to drugs or saline either way it’s a bad thing to inject anything in your body if not for a medical reason, and would make me wonder if they would consider other things to inject.
 
But as far as allergic reactions go I have a couple of friends that nearly died years ago one from just drinking a can of drink, it was tested nothing in there that should not be, and found she was allergic to one of the chemicals in there which was normally
Un-reactive in most of the population, this is the point I was trying to make.
 
What if someone asked you to inject saline or something else which we looked on as just as harmless? Personally I would not like that responsibility, if something went wrong I would never forgive myself, peace of mind is a great thing.
 
 
Anyway just my thoughts, hope this finds everyone happy and well.
 
beanie




fetishnoob -> RE: Saline Injections (5/27/2007 3:54:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: puella

Accidentally hurting yourself from lack of knowledge is one thing.  Accidentally hurting someone else from lack of knowledge is prosecutable.

If you can not understand why giving out information about invasive procedures on a chat forum (with no verifiable documented standards of procedure, let alone clinical experience) is unwise.... then I guess you can just disregard my post .[;)]

i understand your point, but stupid people will do stupid things, so why should we be limited by the idiot factor, rather than freely expressing and discussing our ideas and desires, sharing what knowledge we may have with those who wish to learn. i would hate to think that being somewhat of a noob, others would have me not take part in or listen to discussions because i might be an idiot




SirHedonicsslave -> RE: Saline Injections (5/27/2007 11:15:02 PM)

If it's a bloody mess, something isn't being done right.  I've had it done many times and the only "mess" we really had was when IV fluid leaked out of the hole from the needles....




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