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CuttySark Fire - 5/21/2007 7:23:35 AM   
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With its masts towering above the Thames, the 138-year-old Cutty Sark has been an imposing presence over Greenwich since it was installed in dry dock.
The tea clipper, which was struck by a fierce blaze early on Monday morning, had become a magnet for tourists and historians alike.
 
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RE: CuttySark Fire - 5/21/2007 8:15:22 AM   
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With its masts towering above the Thames, the 138-year-old Cutty Sark has been an imposing presence over Greenwich since it was installed in dry dock.
The tea clipper, which was struck by a fierce blaze early on Monday morning, had become a magnet for tourists and historians alike.
 
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Very sad. I still remember my school trip to see her. Even sadder now that they think it might be arson and not an accident. Something that can never be replaced.

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RE: CuttySark Fire - 5/21/2007 10:27:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		Its just been reported on BBC1 that there is hope of rebuilding, since many parts were apparently in for refurbishment/conservation.

However, the project was 6 million pounds in the red before the fire, so I think as usual in this country, it will come down to money. And after all, one could buy a few tanks for 6 million.....

The hope is that the lottery will step in - but the lottery is already drained to pay for the damned olympics as I understand it.

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RE: CuttySark Fire - 5/21/2007 10:36:38 AM   
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An update on ideas and another ship...
 
Another clipper that needs attention
CUTTY SARK is not the only veteran sailing ship that requires considerable attention
 
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RE: CuttySark Fire - 5/21/2007 10:52:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		At the risk of getting political on this one, it seems to me that other Europeans find the money for things like conserving their heritage, far better than we do.

I wonder if its because we are meant to be ashamed of our past in Britain, and be looking to the future as one big happy family?

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RE: CuttySark Fire - 5/22/2007 2:55:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think you have a point there, Lady Ellen - it seems that we as Brits do nothing but apologise for our part in history these days. We have a ridiculous apology for slavery, when we should be celebrating the fact that we were actually at the forefront of the abolition movement, and we cannot celebrate great naval victories like Trafalgar for fear of being politically incorrect and offending somebody (the French in this case).

Every country has some shame in its past, but we should celebrate that which has made us greater and stronger as a nation. After all, the Americans don't shy away from celebrating the fact that they whupped our asses all those years ago. ;)

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RE: CuttySark Fire - 5/22/2007 3:03:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		That is terrible news!  I cannot fathom what motives someone to
destroy historical momuments, works of art, national treasures, etc.

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Very sad. I still remember my school trip to see her. Even sadder now that they think it might be arson and not an accident. Something that can never be replaced.


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RE: CuttySark Fire - 5/28/2007 6:17:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		I was awake when the first report came on the news,then I felt the anger at the loss of such a historic ship.A ship that over the years has been allowed to rot for it to need major restoration.Anger,because my great grandfather was second mate on that ship,and had his name etched in brass on the ships deck.

Furthermore,the Cutty Sark,should be afloat,for a nation founded on the sea and ships,we have very few historic ships in sailing condition.Would it not be a fine thing to see the most famous and fastest tea clipper as a participant in the tall ships race?

For me a landlocked ship is like a duck out of water,it should not be so.

But at the end of the day,it all comes down to money,and there never seems to be any money available,despite Britain being one of the wealthiest countries in the world.

Initial news reports of gas cylinders aboard maybe being the fault,gas cylinders are perfectly safe,unless there is an ignition source and then it takes a while.As to arson,I really hope the police act.

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RE: CuttySark Fire - 5/28/2007 6:19:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		Greenwhich won't ever be the same without the Cutty Sark... but that's what history's made of. Blazes. Things going up in flames. Destruction... it won't be forgotten, though. Right?

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RE: CuttySark Fire - 5/28/2007 9:25:59 PM   
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RE: CuttySark Fire - 5/28/2007 9:46:05 PM   
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I wonder if its because we are meant to be ashamed of our past in Britain, and be looking to the future as one big happy family?


Thy living in America dear, we are blamed for everything.

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RE: CuttySark Fire - 5/28/2007 9:47:32 PM   
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RE: CuttySark Fire - 5/29/2007 12:31:35 AM   
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I wonder if its because we are meant to be ashamed of our past in Britain, and be looking to the future as one big happy family?


Thy living in America dear, we are blamed for everything.


Thanks, but that doesnt help.

I mean, whose fault is it that the USA exists after all?

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RE: CuttySark Fire - 5/29/2007 2:47:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		Here's a story CBS news did on the ship Sunday:

(CBS) It wasn't just a fire — it was history going up in smoke. The world's best-preserved relic from the great age of sail reduced, it seemed earlier this week, to so much kindling.

Not much was left once the flames were put out. But this ship, the Cutty Sark, has always been a lucky girl. A lot of her wasn't here at the time of the fire ... the masts, the planking from the hull, fittings, even the figurehead named Nana, had all been taken away to a warehouse as part of a major restoration project.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/05/26/sunday/main2855541.shtml

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RE: CuttySark Fire - 5/29/2007 7:41:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		To our Brit friends: in the immortal words of Cpt. James Lawrence, USS Chesapeake: "Don't give up the ship"

These sorts of things are always awful. I don't know just what makes a person want to destroy a historical object like that, but in my hometown we had a similar situation when a couple of kids set fire to a beautiful, private railcar that had belonged to one of the steel barons of Pittsburgh. It had all the late early 1900's old school craftsmanship that $150k could buy. I figured it was a lost cause (this was in 1983) but on a recent trip home I was astonished and pleased to see that the old girl is just over half finished with a full restoration. Hopefully, the same will occur with the Cutty Sark.

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RE: CuttySark Fire - 5/29/2007 8:12:42 AM   
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BBC Radio 4 news reported at lunchtime that a concert is to be held, to help raise money for the restoration.

Is there anything that cant be solved by way of a concert!?

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RE: CuttySark Fire - 5/29/2007 8:42:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		Rotten story.,........talking with my mum she remembers seeing the Cutty Sark being towed into position many years ago. If i turns out to be arson i hope they throw the book at the buggers........

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