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LadyEllen -> RE: missing British girl (5/21/2007 5:53:50 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

How does this phenomenon relate to physics?  What are the manifestations of this?

Astoundedly,
Hawking 


Its all to do with fractal squiggles, so I understand.

E




darcyinshadows -> RE: missing British girl (5/22/2007 3:12:10 AM)

The sad truth for the McCann's is that they did make a very stupid mistake, and one that infortunately they are going to have to live with for the rest of their lives. I do sincerely hope that Madeliene is returned to them safe and unharmed, but realistically the chances of this happening now that this ridiculously overblown media frenzy has kicked into overdrive are little more than zero.

I find the whole coverage of this story leaves a nasty taste in the mouth for several reasons:

1. There are dozens of children who go missing on a daily basis in Britain and elsewhere, but it takes a blonde, fresh faced child from two "very successful doctors within our community" (their words, not mine) to make the world sit up and give a damn. You can bet your life that if it was an unemployed pair of alcoholics who had left their child alone to go to the pub then there wouldn't be the sympathy and concern, instead there would be finger pointing, recriminations, and the other children would be taken into care.

2. They've set up a 'fighting' fund, which to date is closing in on nearly £100k ($200k) of donations - for what, exactly? What is this money going to be used for, and who is accountable for the expenditure?

3. The whole 'Diana Syndrome' whereby thousands of people are latching onto the grief of this family by holding 'unauthorised' one minute silences (yesterday in Portugal), setting up websites, and holding vigils.

4. The McCanns intend to go on a 'world tour' to try and find Madeleine - again, how on earth is this going to help? Thanks to the huge media campaign, every man, woman, child and their dog are aware that Madeliene is misisng and that their parents want her back safely.

I stress, I would like nothing more than for Madeleine to be returned safely, and for all of the other abducted children in the world to have the same happy ending, but the media firestorm has just left a nasty taste in my mouth.

*books one way ticket to hell*




LadyoftheHouse1 -> RE: missing British girl (5/22/2007 3:18:55 AM)

I totally agree...as well as leaving no stones unturned looking for this little girl...we should also use this opportunity ( in we, I mean the media) to highlight children who go missing every day and most NEVER return home.. their stories are never heard of...




LadyEllen -> RE: missing British girl (5/22/2007 3:20:50 AM)

I think youre right to an extent Darcy, that the media attention has the danger of encouraging whoever has her to get rid as soon as possible - but at the same time, the more people who know the better for maybe, just maybe, spotting her and recovering her.

From what I understand from our clients and suppliers in Europe, its only being reported in the UK, Eire and Portugal though. There are emails circulating across the continent for the last ten days or so now though, amongst us transport and forwarding types, and it might just be that some truck driver somewhere sees her. Fingers crossed.

E




susie -> RE: missing British girl (5/22/2007 3:24:41 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyoftheHouse1

I totally agree...as well as leaving no stones unturned looking for this little girl...we should also use this opportunity ( in we, I mean the media) to highlight children who go missing every day and most NEVER return home.. their stories are never heard of...


I agree. There is currently a fighting fund as previously mentioned and many people have sent money to the "reward" fund which currently stands at £2.6 million. Whilst I feel sorry for the family and hope that Maddy is found, I can also imagine how the parents of other children that have gone missing must feel. Those whose children may not have been as photogenic as Maddy or from less well off families who did not have a network in place to get their child featured in the media as this family have. Perhaps instead of issuing such a huge reward in this one case some of that money could go towards helping other parents who have had their children go missing too.




darkinshadows -> RE: missing British girl (5/22/2007 3:31:05 AM)

I also agree and echo Darcy - and also echo susie in the mention that as much as I do hope maddie is returned, if it wasnt for the fact that she is very photogenic, and as harsh as this sounds, I doubt her image would be posted around quite as much had she not been.  I have found incredibly offensive in some respects, to walk down my local high street only look in stores and find maddies image plastered wall to wall - glass to glass.  Even an estate agent where I live has removed all their properties and every inch is taken up by pictures and leaflets.
 
It is offensive that other missing children are not treated the same.
*edit add - who is to say that maddie looks anything like the photographs now anyway?  If she has been kidnapped as some media reports have suggested by a 'family' then who is to say they haven't dyed her hair, cut it, or even shaved it and have her dressed as a boy? 
Peace




HutchGarahl -> RE: missing British girl (5/22/2007 3:34:05 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070520/wl_uk_afp/portugalbritaincrime_070520113753

How the hell do you "dine at a nearby restaurant" while your four-year-old daughter is alone in a hotel room?


Because the parents were stupid...plain and simple. When my little ones were little...I NEVER left them alone. If I were to go somewhere and they weren't welcome to be...I didn't go. I didn't leave any of my kids alone till they reached 15 years of age. And even when my oldest was 15, sure..she was old enough to watch other kids...but I still took the other 2 with me.
 
I do hope that Little Madaline is returned safely....but this should be a lesson to all who leave their kids behind. It would be nice if all the kids who disappear got this kind of attention.




susie -> RE: missing British girl (5/22/2007 4:10:36 AM)

This is an interesting piece from Yahoo UK

"The National Missing Person's Helpline said this week that more than 800 children and young people have gone missing since Madeleine disappeared from Praia da Luz on the Algarve.
There are also some 210,000 incidents of people reported missing each year, two-thirds of them young people under 18, according to British interior ministry estimates. But few, if any, receive as much publicity."

Is it just that she is pretty that there is so much attention, or because she is from a "good" family? If the parents had been on social security and living in a council house and they had left their children alone in the house to go to the pub with their friends would the media reaction be the same. I very much doubt it.




darkinshadows -> RE: missing British girl (5/22/2007 5:20:54 AM)

Well, I for one would be very happy if social services became involved and the police decided to prosecute the McCanns for endangerment or neglect instead of seeing them as untouchable.
 
At least they will get a lovely world holiday tour out of it and get to rub noses with sycophantic celebraties.
 
Peace




CrimsonMoan -> RE: missing British girl (5/22/2007 7:23:53 AM)

Ok for every brit whwo jumped down my throat I am sorry but yeah whoever pointed out the article that is one source plus people working at the hotel/resort have seen OTHER british parents with their children do the same thing. As for not everyone being able to afford a nanny I was REFERING to the McCanns only. They have a nanny, and my complaint was that if they were gonna baulk at the idea of using the istter service they should have brought her along.

I have british friends so its not liek i was meanign to offend anyone. I was commenting on what I read from two sources. And even if its not a "common practice" you still have large number of parents, the group that McCanns were in included who still felt it was oka to leave their children alone, asleep or not, it obviously doesn't seem wrong to them and THAT is the problem.

And yes if they were in the states they would be the number one suspects. Hell the two year old would probably not even be with their parents right now and the other parents they had dinner with would be investigated. My whole point on this was that the parents, harrsh as it may seem brought this on themselves. My sympathy lies with the lil girl and siblings, no one else. I am a mother and I would NEVER EVER do something like that. Hell my own mother never left me in the house by myself until i was 11-12 or so but then I was a mature and responsible kid I knew how to handle myself.

Again I apologize if I ruffled some feather but you know what? Be moreupset with the parents who thought for a second this was even remotely ok.




Lordandmaster -> RE: missing British girl (9/7/2007 6:08:46 PM)

Wow, did you all hear about this latest development?  Now the parents have been declared suspects:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070908/ap_on_re_eu/portugal_missing_girl




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