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spankmepink11 -> Canidates refuse to disclose tax returns (5/16/2007 6:12:44 AM)

Front-Runners Refuse Release of Tax ReturnsBy JAKE TAPPER and AVERY MILLERABC News
(May 16) - Five of the six presidential front-runners -- Sens. Hillary Clinton , D-N.Y., and John McCain , R-Ariz., former Republican  Gov. Mitt Romney of Massachusetts, former Democratic Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina and former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani  -- are as yet refusing to release their tax returns.
That was just the header of the article.   So far Obama is the only one who has disclosed his tax return.To me, the article implies that the canidates are worried that certain sources of thier income may affect the publics opinion.  Is it reasonable to expect them to disclose their  tax returns?




seeksfemslave -> RE: Canidates refuse to disclose tax returns (5/16/2007 7:39:48 AM)

NO




Real0ne -> RE: Canidates refuse to disclose tax returns (5/16/2007 8:06:45 AM)

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ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave

NO



It certainly is!   You forget they are OUR servants NOT the other way around!!!  If the public, "theri employers"  so determine that taking a look at their tax returns is adesire they have the obligation to provide them!

Do you tell a new employer that you will not give them your salary history??????  NO because if you tell them to fuck off you do not get the job!




seeksfemslave -> RE: Canidates refuse to disclose tax returns (5/16/2007 11:27:54 AM)

Tax liability is properly handled by the relevant authorities. If any potential presidential candidate wants to enter total servitude then he/she should join Collar Me. lol

You do not employ politicians in the formal sense, they put themselves up for office to represent the various interests of the nation viewed as a whole he he he he he.
Thats the theory anyway !




Real0ne -> RE: Canidates refuse to disclose tax returns (5/16/2007 3:12:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave

Tax liability is properly handled by the relevant authorities. If any potential presidential candidate wants to enter total servitude then he/she should join Collar Me. lol

You do not employ politicians in the formal sense, they put themselves up for office to represent the various interests of the nation viewed as a whole he he he he he.
Thats the theory anyway !


Believe it or not they are called "civil servants"!  Thats all the way up to the prez and congress in as much as the way things are "supposed" to work and yeh i cant figure out why anyone would want to go into politics the way it is supposed to be done.

Just think if it were done the way it was intended we would be getting people in office with a mission to do something good for the country not line their pockets.

i think that anyone running for office should be willing to show theirs and the income of family members and well as buisiness ties of same since we are hiring them to do the peoples business!!!!

You get a job with a company it is a conflict of interest to work for another one at the same time!  Same goes imo.  It would sure clean up the corruption quick or force it seriously underground and at least make it much more difficult thatn in our face like it is now!




Alumbrado -> RE: Canidates refuse to disclose tax returns (5/16/2007 3:24:43 PM)

Pure BS... you wouldn't let someone make public your personal and financial information because a relative of yours was applying for a job, and the dependents of candidates for office have every bit as much of a right to privacy as you do.





b12345 -> RE: Canidates refuse to disclose tax returns (5/16/2007 4:33:19 PM)

Perhaps not records of family members, but if you are going to run for POTUS then you are going to sacrafice the privacy of yourself and your family to do so.  If people want to see financial records, and tax returns enough to sway there vote, then the canidates probably ought to produce them, unless of coarse the contents of the tax return are more damaging to the campaign than failing to provide them. 




SugarMyChurro -> RE: Canidates refuse to disclose tax returns (5/16/2007 5:10:36 PM)

Of course they should disclose their major financial dealings, it's the only way to protect against conflicts of interest. Look at the current disaster of conflicted interests that is Cheney - it's in the open and yet no one seems to care either way. Or do they?

If they want their financial affairs private then they'll just have to use offshore accounts and maintain offshore holdings like everyone else does!




Sinergy -> RE: Canidates refuse to disclose tax returns (5/16/2007 5:29:58 PM)

 
What we see here is damage control by candidates who dont want to disclose their conflicts of interest, faced with the problem that one of them broke ranks (Obama) and presented his.

The ones who refused now look guilty, whether they are or not.

The media spin will be to convince the public that candidates have a right to privacy.  That way the people who believe media spin will champion their right to not disclose.  I do not believe it for a minute.  Want to keep your affairs and life private, do not apply for the job (seek to run for office) as a public servant.  Decide to run as a
public servant, expect everybody and their dog to search for your skeletons in the closet.

As Real0ne said, they ARE applying for a job as a public servant.  What determines whether they get the job is public perception.  All but one shot themselves in the head right out of the gate.

I think it is hilarious.  I personally dont care whether they have conflicts of interest or refuse to provide their tax returns.  The damage is already done; Obama presented his for public scrutiny and is way ahead of the rest of them as far as credibility and openness is concerned.

Half of the ones who refused to provide their tax returns are already fighting to explain their vote supporting the AUMF.

Sinergy

p.s.  On a related note, this flap will have blown over with all of them dangling in the wind like ex-pirates, and will not touch Al Gore a year from now if he decides to run.  The battle will already be fought.  If the politicians win their fight to keep their affairs private, he can simply say "gee, you didnt force them to, why should I?"  If they dont win their fight to keep their affairs private, he may/may not have any more skeletons in his closet than the rest of them.  Win / win for Gore.





minnetar -> RE: Canidates refuse to disclose tax returns (5/16/2007 8:14:46 PM)

Obama isn't ashamed to show his wife makes tons more money he does by serving in the Senate lol.

minnetar




Griswold -> RE: Canidates refuse to disclose tax returns (5/16/2007 8:15:52 PM)

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ORIGINAL: spankmepink11

Front-Runners Refuse Release of Tax ReturnsBy JAKE TAPPER and AVERY MILLERABC News
(May 16) - Five of the six presidential front-runners -- Sens. Hillary Clinton , D-N.Y., and John McCain , R-Ariz., former Republican  Gov. Mitt Romney of Massachusetts, former Democratic Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina and former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani  -- are as yet refusing to release their tax returns.
That was just the header of the article.   So far Obama is the only one who has disclosed his tax return.To me, the article implies that the canidates are worried that certain sources of thier income may affect the publics opinion.  Is it reasonable to expect them to disclose their  tax returns?


I don't even know why that's important.




Sinergy -> RE: Canidates refuse to disclose tax returns (5/16/2007 8:25:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Griswold

quote:

ORIGINAL: spankmepink11

Front-Runners Refuse Release of Tax ReturnsBy JAKE TAPPER and AVERY MILLERABC News
(May 16) - Five of the six presidential front-runners -- Sens. Hillary Clinton , D-N.Y., and John McCain , R-Ariz., former Republican  Gov. Mitt Romney of Massachusetts, former Democratic Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina and former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani  -- are as yet refusing to release their tax returns.
That was just the header of the article.   So far Obama is the only one who has disclosed his tax return.To me, the article implies that the canidates are worried that certain sources of thier income may affect the publics opinion.  Is it reasonable to expect them to disclose their  tax returns?


I don't even know why that's important.


It, in and of itself, is not important.

What is important are the people who are refusing to disclose their tax returns.  The why not? would be important.

Since Obama said "sure," I imagine nobody will even bother to look at his.

Sinergy




seeksfemslave -> RE: Canidates refuse to disclose tax returns (5/17/2007 2:05:19 AM)

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Sinergy 
Want to keep your affairs and life private, do not apply for the job (seek to run for office) as a public servant.  Decide to run as a public servant, expect everybody and their dog to search for your skeletons in the closet.


This is a recipe for getting only insipid in bed by nine , not with nine, non entitities to seek to attain the highest office. NO?
Having watched Obama on a "love in "with Oprah I rest my case. lol 
It got so sugary I switched off !




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