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business practice sucks! - 5/14/2007 6:02:04 PM   
pahunkboy


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ok- i gets a bill from the satilite people. i have NO satilite here. like so many other "servces" once you sign on- your on for life.

so now- what ill spend 40 miniutes on voice mail explaining an account i dont have?????
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RE: business practice sucks! - 5/14/2007 6:04:18 PM   
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Probably want to check your credit report.  You never know.

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RE: business practice sucks! - 5/14/2007 6:12:56 PM   
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now im on hold for these  ppl

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RE: business practice sucks! - 5/14/2007 6:14:12 PM   
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my credit - yes- i checked it a month ago. relatively speaking it was fine.

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RE: business practice sucks! - 5/14/2007 6:20:02 PM   
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"MAIL ME A CERTIFIED COPY OF THE CONTRACT BEARING MY SIGNATURE"

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RE: business practice sucks! - 5/14/2007 6:21:06 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: selfbnd411

Probably want to check your credit report.  You never know.


I agree. I am going through the same thing right now. I found someone had opened a cable account under my name. So now I have to prove where I was living at the time the service was hooked up, and provide a police report.

The worse part was the collection agency I had to contact to get the information. They wanted all my information, as well as my business information. After I refused the following information, they tried to bombard me into paying it, even though it wasn't mine.

Best of luck pahunkboy. I am still working on my issue.

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RE: business practice sucks! - 5/14/2007 7:25:10 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

ok- i gets a bill from the satilite people. i have NO satilite here. like so many other "servces" once you sign on- your on for life.

so now- what ill spend 40 miniutes on voice mail explaining an account i dont have?????


You recieved a bill from the satelite folks...and you have NO satelite service?

(This appears fairly cut and dried to me....just a supposition though).

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RE: business practice sucks! - 5/14/2007 7:30:32 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

ok- i gets a bill from the satilite people. i have NO satilite here. like so many other "servces" once you sign on- your on for life.

so now- what ill spend 40 miniutes on voice mail explaining an account i dont have?????


write a letter and send it certified

minnetar

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RE: business practice sucks! - 5/14/2007 7:39:42 PM   
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A suggested outline.

1) Invoice generated and sent to me erroneously.

2) No Contract Exists b/t you and I.

3) You have 7 business days to respond to this, in writing, certified mail, with a certified copy of your contract showing otherwise, objections, if that is not the case. State that if you do NOT receive via cert. mail a copy of the contract indicating your obligation you will consider the matter closed, as they have corrected their internal errors, admitted you have no Contract, Obligation or Balance.

Be specific in your requirement that they act within a short period of time, providing something they clearly cannot.

Once the timeline expires, put it in the file, secure in the knowledge that summary judgment is pretty much a lock once they Judge sees they neglected to follow up.

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RE: business practice sucks! - 5/15/2007 1:07:21 AM   
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Sound very much like something thats happened to me twice now.

One moves into a new place, one notifies the gas, electric and so on, and the next thing, one has a bill for the unpaid arrears for gas or electric of the previous tenant, with one's name on. The last tenant skipped out without paying, so you can pay their debt to us.

There then follows a couple of months of really nasty phonecalls from shitheads at a debt collection agency who will not talk about the matter and refuse to even consider what one is saying. Then come to letters from the lawyers, who are equally unreasonable. I only settled my two cases by writing to the CEO of the two gas companies involved - I also complained about the harassment and stupidity of their subcontracted debt collection function - and he cancelled their contract, though I presume more than I complained.

Another one! One of the directors of my company moved into a house ten years ago. For six years, despite asking, he never received a single bill for electricity. Then suddenly, a bill for close on GBP 5000-00 (USD 10k) arrived, for the whole period. Payable within 30 days. The six years thing is interesting, because this is the legal time limit for claiming payments due - after six years they become null and void in most cases. Again he found talking to the monkeys a waste of time and escalated it to director level - he negotiated for less than half in the circumstances and to pay it over a year.

And yet another! We have a consumer affairs programme on TV here - sorting out dodgy companies and so on. We also have what's called a competitive market for gas and electricity - one can buy the same supply, through the same network, from dozens of different companies, at different tariffs. (Another Tory triumph). Anyway, there have been multiple cases featured on the programme, of people switching suppliers, yet still being billed by their old supplier - and even being taken to court over it to claim payment. None of the efforts of these people to get anything resolved at the call centre level have had any effect whatever - but a call from the TV programme to the directors of the suppliers concerned, and its all sorted.

The moral of the stories is, to escalate this to the very highest level, right now. Forget the call centres, forget the junior under vice president for consumer relations even, go straight to the CEO at the registered office, in writing. He/she will have a duty to deal with it and the power to get it sorted immediately.

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RE: business practice sucks! - 5/15/2007 1:17:53 AM   
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In my experience call centres are OK,if you can get thru', so long as you dont request anything out of the ordinary. Then expect endless repetitive 'phone calls.

I had a problem trying to cancel a subscription to a digital TV service. They kept telling OK we know you want to cancel then not stopping the service and billing me as usual. The problem is you have to wait until the following month to find out the SNAFU situation Mon dieu !

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RE: business practice sucks! - 5/15/2007 1:26:07 AM   
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Waits for someone (hopefully American) to ask what SNAFU means.....

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RE: business practice sucks! - 5/15/2007 3:14:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

Waits for someone (hopefully American) to ask what SNAFU means.....

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SNAFU.  :)

kitten, who was perhaps 6 when she heard that one explained...its a common enough military lingo

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RE: business practice sucks! - 5/15/2007 3:32:36 AM   
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I had a gas bill from Britsh Gas once, when there wasn't even a gas supply to the village I lived in - let alone the house itself...
 
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RE: business practice sucks! - 5/15/2007 3:38:41 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

Sound very much like something thats happened to me twice now.

One moves into a new place, one notifies the gas, electric and so on, and the next thing, one has a bill for the unpaid arrears for gas or electric of the previous tenant, with one's name on. The last tenant skipped out without paying, so you can pay their debt to us.



When I sold my house in England, the new owner was still geting electric and gas bills for me 18 months after I had left as well as getting his own for the same address. The only positive thing was the bills were for the same amount LOL. I don't know whether he eventually got the whole thing sorted out or whether it is still ongoing.

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RE: business practice sucks! - 5/15/2007 3:54:55 AM   
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Tak an invoice from a lawyer or similar service indusustry and start billing the company for each phone call you have to make to them and for each letter you have to send. The sum of money they owe you quickly rises.

I've only ever been paid out once but it is great fun to contact their accounts payable sections and drive them nuts until they get an internal resolution sorted. The best one is when you send them a letter confirming what you had said on the phone (when they contacted you threatening payment) for a bill you do noy owe. Aned then you charge them for your time to receive  their phone call and to send the letter. I use £50 per letter and phine call I receive or make. 

To avoid accusations of fraud you make it very clear in every letter what the original contact concerned and "proof" that you do not owe them money.

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RE: business practice sucks! - 5/15/2007 6:47:07 AM   
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this is the only utility that messed up.  part of their busines plan is that ur in for life.

i might have to do the inaduaqate postage trick.   the ceo mails complaint to the prez and vice versa- however each letter doesnt have enuff postage- so the company must pay to retrieve it.  the websites seldom contain such info- but a decent google can.

it burns me up that it is fun to waste my time and play little games on the phone.

i never do those trial period thing- just call and cancel-

i should have told her that i   she was filmed on channel 100.

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RE: business practice sucks! - 5/15/2007 6:48:43 AM   
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ps- NEVER ageee to autmatic billing!

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RE: business practice sucks! - 5/15/2007 6:49:52 AM   
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quick someone help me burn down an indian call center

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RE: business practice sucks! - 5/15/2007 6:56:07 AM   
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I will not do automatic payment, only for my mortgage (because I saved some interest doing it that way).

At one point I received a long distance bill from a carrier I never had.  I was told another carrier bought them.  I explained that I almost always had a $5.00 credit on my long distance bill (I kept it that way so I wouldn't have to pay a small bill every month).  I told them to consider the bill in disput since there was no way I owed them a cent.  I never received another bill from them.


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