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Real0ne -> Rosie O Gittin Down! (5/12/2007 3:21:58 PM)
Ba Ba Wa Wa Sanctioned! Too!! LOL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pYesEy5GgI&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eprisonplanet%2Ecom%2Farticles%2Fmarch2007%2F300307executerosie%2Ehtm Great clip! Go Rosie! LOL This will teach her! Obey the Master! http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/25/business/media/25cnd-Rosie.html?ex=1193112000&en=a5f219606052bd8b&ei=5087&excamp=OVBUrosie

minnetar -> RE: Rosie O Gittin Down! (5/12/2007 4:52:19 PM)
Thanks for the links. Ever since the Star Jones thing my opinion of Ms Walters has declined. As far as i am concerned, Rosie is a loose cannon who says things in order to get attention. minnetar

FirmhandKY -> RE: Rosie O Gittin Down! (5/12/2007 5:42:39 PM)
Maybe Rosie has a problem with her dopamine circuits, maybe she's just psychologically projecting, , or maybe she's just socially isolated. Whatever is wrong with her, I'm glad she'll be gone from The View. She poisons the political discussion. FirmKY

Real0ne -> RE: Rosie O Gittin Down! (5/12/2007 6:36:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY Maybe Rosie has a problem with her dopamine circuits, maybe she's just psychologically projecting, , or maybe she's just socially isolated. Whatever is wrong with her, I'm glad she'll be gone from The View. She poisons the political discussion. FirmKY You must mean whatever is right with her! "For more than a century, ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it." David Rockefeller, Memoirs, 2002 i sort of like you ya know. i think your heart is in the right place. you just love to look at the pretty leaves when its the roots that need your attention. you know there is only one thing as bad as a conspiracy kook and that is a non-conspiracy kook. Since you like non-conspiracy approach so much this is a good read for you; http://www.lewrockwell.com/yates/yates51.html The UN’s Non-Conspiracy for World Government and Global Taxation by Steven Yates Suppose, loyal reader, you and I were to work together in secret and hatch a plan that would affect others – perhaps a lot of others – without their knowledge or consent. Would we or would we not be launching a conspiracy? I think we would have to say, Yes. Now suppose we do the same thing, but instead of keeping it secret we put our agenda on the World Wide Web where anyone with a computer, a modem and an ISP can access it. Never mind that we’ve written it in mindnumbing bureaucratese. Never mind that most of the public is more interested in sports, the Oscars or the latest Survivor series. Never mind that its reporting by the mainstream media is minimal and focused on side issues. The point is, our machinations would be available to any literate person who has the will and the know-how to seek them out. I doubt we could still call it a conspiracy. What would be the point? But that is the state of affairs with the UN’s latest confab, the International Conference on Financing for Development (FfD) in Monterrey, Mexico, held from 18 – 22 March, 2002. This meeting continued the agenda set forth in Our Global Neighborhood issued by the Commission on Global Governance in 1995, restated in the Millennium Declaration, and now incorporated into the Monterrey Consensus agreement. Except for the Internet, of course, media reporting was skimpy, even though representatives of 171 nations signed the agreement. The meeting was attended by hundreds of other luminaries, from leaders of non-governmental organizations to CEOs of multinational corporations who attended an International Business Forum on "public / private partnerships." The Monterrey Consensus is fairly tough slogging. The phrase mindnumbing bureaucratese pays the document a compliment. There are abundant phrases like global partnerships, sustainable development, good governance, appropriate policy and regulatory frameworks, involving all stakeholders and so on and so on, for 16 pages (73 paragraphs) of small print. One suspects that its writers wanted to discourage prying eyes. Most people indeed will lose interest before they get to the second page. Much the same may be said for the UN website itself. It is a disorganized, hard-to-navigate mess; finding specific information on it is challenging even for experienced Web-hounds. But there is enough in this document to give away the game when translated into plain, words-mean-things English – for those who persevere. For example Steven Yates is a Margaret "Peg" Rowley Fellow at the Ludwig von Mises Institute, where he is writing a book entitled The Paradox of Liberty. He has a PhD in philosophy, and is the author of Civil Wrongs: What Went Wrong With Affirmative Action (ICS Press, 1994), and dozens of articles in both academic and nonacademic periodicals. He has relocated to Auburn, Alabama. Copyright © 2002 LewRockwell.com Go Rosie!

GoddessDustyGold -> RE: Rosie O Gittin Down! (5/12/2007 10:54:37 PM)
I would say that Rosie "poisons the political discussion" as Firm states, not because she doesn't have a right to an opinion, but because she shouts that opinion as fact and everybody who doesn't beleive her view, or has a different opinion and would like to offer their perspective, is stupid and misinformed. I saw part of The View a couple of weeks ago, by accident, and was shocked. Not at her opinions, although I think they are misguided (yes, I am oh so polite! Smile) but because she was literally yelling and refusing to let anyone else get a word in edgewise. She is dismissive, demeaning, arrogant and, in My opinion, ugly in her words and her attitude. These "rosie rants" are not political discussions. They are "rosie holding court at the top of her lungs". But she has the right to her "free speech". Now I am off the the other thread that I initially thought, from the title might be another discussion on the same "Rosie" topic. However, it appears that one is drawing the question of hate speech vs. free speech because it is a Christian "wacko" rather than an entertainer on a television show. Wondering who has the greater influence? Isn't it interesting how very similar things can be viewed so differently? Rosie is defended in her right to free speech, but the wacko is derided at every possible opportunity and people are all for having him arrested and wishing terrible thing to him and his pathetic followers. Let it be said, that I disagree heartily with both Rose and the Wacko. I don't tune into either.

FirmhandKY -> RE: Rosie O Gittin Down! (5/12/2007 11:31:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne quote: ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY Maybe Rosie has a problem with her dopamine circuits, maybe she's just psychologically projecting, or maybe she's just socially isolated. Whatever is wrong with her, I'm glad she'll be gone from The View. She poisons the political discussion. You must mean whatever is right with her! You must not have followed any of the links. quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne "For more than a century, ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it." David Rockefeller, Memoirs, 2002 You miss his point. quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne you know there is only one thing as bad as a conspiracy kook and that is a non-conspiracy kook. Since you like non-conspiracy approach so much this is a good read for you; http://www.lewrockwell.com/yates/yates51.html The UN’s Non-Conspiracy for World Government and Global Taxation by Steven Yates Suppose, loyal reader, you and I were to work together in secret and hatch a plan that would affect others – perhaps a lot of others – without their knowledge or consent. Would we or would we not be launching a conspiracy? I think we would have to say, Yes. I don't particular like the UN either. I also believe that many members have the desire to use it's instrumentalities to increase their own power, and therefore the power of the UN for their own personal reasons. That doesn't make me a believers in dark, secret conspiracies lead through the ages, with membership in secret societies with the dark purpose of "ordering the world" according to some "master plan". It's just the common human attempt to "get theirs" and order their environment in a way that is most conducive to their benefit. Also: Lewrockwell.com Lew Rockwell's namesake web site features a selection of articles, including opposition to war and imperialism, and occasional articles criticizing the presidency of Abraham Lincoln. The site also includes essays against the United States's participation in the Second World War, speculation about an end of the United States as a cohesive union, and accusations that fascism and socialism alike threaten the Western world as states and leaders centralize their power. These writings are controversial, and have brought on harsh criticism from both the political left and right. FirmKY

seeksfemslave -> RE: Rosie O Gittin Down! (5/13/2007 12:05:15 AM)
quote: GoddessDustyGold Discussing Rosie wotsername said She is dismissive, demeaning, arrogant and, in My opinion, ugly in her words and her attitude Sounds like Judge Judy to me !

Real0ne -> RE: Rosie O Gittin Down! (5/13/2007 5:57:57 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne You must mean whatever is right with her! You must not have followed any of the links. I cant say that her battle axe approach is my first choice either but she obviously gets attention since the ratings climbed nicely for babawawa. With your methods and approach there is "virtually" no such thing as a conspiracy. So how do you explain this man begging people to petition congress to call off the attacks in JULY? That is 2 months prior? How do you explain that KY? Again we are talking JULY!! How? http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8184253307321536024&q quote: ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne "For more than a century, ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it." David Rockefeller, Memoirs, 2002 You miss his point. Listening. quote: ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne you know there is only one thing as bad as a conspiracy kook and that is a non-conspiracy kook. Since you like non-conspiracy approach so much this is a good read for you; http://www.lewrockwell.com/yates/yates51.html The UN’s Non-Conspiracy for World Government and Global Taxation by Steven Yates I don't particular like the UN either. I also believe that many members have the desire to use it's instrumentalities to increase their own power, and therefore the power of the UN for their own personal reasons. That doesn't make me a believers in dark, secret conspiracies lead through the ages, with membership in secret societies with the dark purpose of "ordering the world" according to some "master plan". It's just the common human attempt to "get theirs" and order their environment in a way that is most conducive to their benefit. The UN was created by "many members have the desire to use it's instrumentalities to increase their own power" as was the CFR the trilateral commission etc etc you seem to have your double think well honed. You admit they have the instrumentalities to increase their power yet at the same time do not believe they would be involved in a "dark secret" or master plan to control the world even when it is admitted and shoved in your face by them. Rockefeller admits he is guilty yet you still cant buy into it? What is it in your opinion just a couple good ole boys sitting around drinking tea discussing the finer points of their golf outing? Do explain what new world order is if not a master plan for one world government. quote: ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY Also: Lewrockwell.com Lew Rockwell's namesake web site features a selection of articles, including opposition to war and imperialism, and occasional articles criticizing the presidency of Abraham Lincoln. The site also includes essays against the United States's participation in the Second World War, speculation about an end of the United States as a cohesive union, and accusations that fascism and socialism alike threaten the Western world as states and leaders centralize their power. These writings are controversial, and have brought on harsh criticism from both the political left and right. FirmKY So whats your point they are not entitled to an opinion and take a side therefore they are not to be heard or worth considering? Make your point.

KatyLied -> RE: Rosie O Gittin Down! (5/13/2007 6:00:59 AM)
Rosie makes people who suffer from depression look bad. I don't understand her popularity and find her to be a good excuse for turning the channel.

Real0ne -> RE: Rosie O Gittin Down! (5/13/2007 7:52:56 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: KatyLied Rosie makes people who suffer from depression look bad. I don't understand her popularity and find her to be a good excuse for turning the channel. Yah and you know what? i have spent years doing just that, turning the channel on gun banning rosie, suffice to say she has been awakened and there are many more to follow in the upcoming years! gun banning rosie saying what she has imo makes a HUGE statemnt!!

Real0ne -> RE: Rosie O Gittin Down! (5/13/2007 7:56:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY Maybe Rosie has a problem with her dopamine circuits, maybe she's just psychologically projecting, , or maybe she's just socially isolated. Whatever is wrong with her, I'm glad she'll be gone from The View. She poisons the political discussion. FirmKY ok fine... i am a bit bored so why not take a look at this further. So... the whole world is insane but thine and i said one psychologist to the other, and you know sometimes i wonder about thine... One of my favorite saying for people who like to loosely throw psychology around. Since you feel that i have not followed the links... This is the part of the page you wanted me to read:Socio-political origins Christopher Hitchens represents conspiracy theories as the 'exhaust fumes of democracy', the unavoidable result of a large amount of information circulating among a large number of people. Other social commentators and sociologists argue that conspiracy theories are produced according to variables that may change within a democratic (or other type of) society. Conspiratorial accounts can be emotionally satisfying when they place events in a readily-understandable, moral context. The subscriber to the theory is able to assign moral responsibility for an emotionally troubling event or situation to a clearly-conceived group of individuals. Crucially, that group does not include the believer. The believer may then feel excused of any moral or political responsibility for remedying whatever institutional or societal flaw might be the actual source of the dissonance.[19] Where responsible behavior is prevented by social conditions, or is simply beyond the ability of an individual, the conspiracy theory facilitates the emotional discharge or closure that such emotional challenges (after Erving Goffman) require. Like moral panics, conspiracy theories thus occur more frequently within communities that are experiencing social isolation or political dis-empowerment. Mark Fenster argues that "just because overarching conspiracy theories are wrong does not mean they are not on to something. Specifically, they ideologically address real structural inequities, and constitute a response to a withering civil society and the concentration of the ownership of the means of production, which together leave the political subject without the ability to be recognized or to signify in the public realm" (1999: 67). But i prefer this part of the page much better as it more closely represents the reality of 911: In August 2004, a Zogby International poll indicated that 49.3% New York City residents and 41% of New York citizens "overall" say US Leaders "knew in advance that attacks were planned on or around September 11, 2001, and that they consciously failed to act".[7] In July 2006, a Scripps Howard and Ohio University poll concluded that "Thirty-six percent of respondents overall said it is "very likely" or "somewhat likely" that federal officials either participated in the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon or took no action to stop them", "sixteen percent said it's "very likely" or "somewhat likely" that the collapse of the twin towers in New York was aided by explosives secretly planted in the two buildings" and "twelve percent suspect the Pentagon was struck by a military cruise missile in 2001 rather than by an airliner captured by terrorists."[8] A May 2006 Zogby International poll indicated that 42% of Americans more likely agree with people who believe that "the US government and its 9/11 Commission concealed or refused to investigate critical evidence that contradicts their official explanation of the September 11th attacks, saying there has been a cover-up."[9] A September 2006 Ipsos-Reid poll found that 22 percent of Canadians believe "the attacks on the United States on September 11, 2001, had nothing to do with Osama Bin Laden and were actually a plot by influential Americans."[10] An October 2006 New York Times and CBS news poll showed that 28 percent believe members of the Bush Administration are mostly lying about "what they knew prior to September 11th, 2001, about possible terrorist attacks against the United States."[11] Just prior to the fifth anniversary of the attacks, a flurry of mainstream news articles on 9/11 conspiracy theories were released.[12][13] In particular this part right here: In its coverage Time Magazine stated, "This is not a fringe phenomenon. It is a mainstream political reality."[14] Mainstream coverage has generally presented these theories as a cultural phenomenon and is often very critical of their content. Now you can paint this as lunacy if you wish because you are in denial. Just like your statement about the rocefeller statement you leave me no choice to make this conclusion considering the over whelming evidence stacked up in support time mags statement. Suffice you may very well think that myself, and all the other patriots who are making this a political reality are paranoid schizo's but then again you may wish to look in the mirror as its most likely you who is in fact in denial and the one who is truly perpetuating the poisoning of the political process. That and as far as the phsychology part of this is concerned there are several errors or at a minimum several areas that are arguable to the max in that little wiki blurp as well as the other site, but i am not that bored that i wish to get in to it.

bigskycountry -> RE: Rosie O Gittin Down! (5/13/2007 11:09:50 PM)
As a new york resident during 9/11 that watched the towers fall, the taste of those moments is etched upon me. We here talked about all aspects of the attack daily for years. Beyond pontificating and suppositions we shared as a collective, what we remember is talking about what is best for us. New York did not vote republican. They will not keep us safe. They will not be the shining light in our corrupt city. They will continue to sell us out, as they always manage (ask anyone that needs concrete or steel or public transportation) to pull a halliburton reacharound when something needs to be built. It's like a libertarian that wants to build a stronger government. We, the prime targets, the big cities, the melting pots, the ones who see and are finacially affected by the greedy groups, know what is going on all too well. We see it every day when the subways run slow to garner one hour of overtime for the train conducter. We see it when there are 7 guys and 2 cement trucks to sink a no parking sign. we see it here in new york when there is a group of tsa officials at LGA ignoring their posts and talking about the yankee's game. We that live here know it was a farce and a set-up (c'mon, unions sabotage projects constantly here and mob contracts still get slipped in all over). We know what's going on, shove your pride and "patriotism" up your ass and quit being a blinded sheep. All bipartisonship aside: NEVER stop eagle-eyeing your government...no matter who is in charge.

Real0ne -> RE: Rosie O Gittin Down! (5/14/2007 5:03:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bigskycountry As a new york resident during 9/11 that watched the towers fall, the taste of those moments is etched upon me. We here talked about all aspects of the attack daily for years. Beyond pontificating and suppositions we shared as a collective, what we remember is talking about what is best for us. New York did not vote republican. They will not keep us safe. They will not be the shining light in our corrupt city. They will continue to sell us out, as they always manage (ask anyone that needs concrete or steel or public transportation) to pull a halliburton reacharound when something needs to be built. It's like a libertarian that wants to build a stronger government. We, the prime targets, the big cities, the melting pots, the ones who see and are finacially affected by the greedy groups, know what is going on all too well. We see it every day when the subways run slow to garner one hour of overtime for the train conducter. We see it when there are 7 guys and 2 cement trucks to sink a no parking sign. we see it here in new york when there is a group of tsa officials at LGA ignoring their posts and talking about the yankee's game. We that live here know it was a farce and a set-up (c'mon, unions sabotage projects constantly here and mob contracts still get slipped in all over). We know what's going on, shove your pride and "patriotism" up your ass and quit being a blinded sheep. All bipartisonship aside: NEVER stop eagle-eyeing your government...no matter who is in charge. Here is a toast to you! Frankly i am surprised more new yorkers have not stepped up to the plate to tell it like it is. There are others out here who know too but there will always be the blind and those who are in denial who cannot accept the realities of life in the paradise we created. Great post bigs hope more new yorkers step up and tell it like it is!

Real0ne -> RE: Rosie O Gittin Down! (5/14/2007 5:44:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GoddessDustyGold These "rosie rants" are not political discussions. They are "rosie holding court at the top of her lungs". But she has the right to her "free speech". yeh and she is one of the few people who got fired even tho she copntinued to rasie the rqatings. Governemnt officials can lie, obsfuscate, and espouse all their bullshit and because they do it in a nioce tone of voice and politely it is acceptable, but because rosie get voiceterous it is unacceptable. Listen to those commentators and you can hear that they edited in "shes kinky"! that should be a slap in all our faces huh? Listen to how they call her names and say ANYTHING to discredit her. There was nothing sqaid about the points she addressed just name calling and people today buy into that while the gov and media lie to us as a matter of course and that is all well and fine because they do it politely.

GoddessDustyGold -> RE: Rosie O Gittin Down! (5/14/2007 9:47:19 AM)
My main point here is that if Rosie truly believes what she spouts, she would be better served to make her points in a reasonable manner. People are people, and when they are shouted down and treated dismissively, they are much more likely to doubt the shouter. She is not making a reasonable argument because she is not reasonable in her presentation. I do not agree with Rose...and she has a right to her opinion... but I do not think she represents herself and her view well by showing such anger. Better that she reasonably make her points, allow the rebuttal and then address that. That will cause more people to, at least, have a desire to listen and make their own decisions.

Real0ne -> RE: Rosie O Gittin Down! (5/14/2007 2:42:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GoddessDustyGold My main point here is that if Rosie truly believes what she spouts, she would be better served to make her points in a reasonable manner. People are people, and when they are shouted down and treated dismissively, they are much more likely to doubt the shouter. She is not making a reasonable argument because she is not reasonable in her presentation. I do not agree with Rose...and she has a right to her opinion... but I do not think she represents herself and her view well by showing such anger. Better that she reasonably make her points, allow the rebuttal and then address that. That will cause more people to, at least, have a desire to listen and make their own decisions. not so sure about that, because i think different things motivate different people. to you or even me and many on here there are better ways but she sure seems to have a large following and better to have a group that listens to her methods listen than shut it out because our methods are to dry if you know what i mean...

GoddessDustyGold -> RE: Rosie O Gittin Down! (5/14/2007 6:31:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne not so sure about that, because i think different things motivate different people. Sadly, you are exactly correct about that. I hate to tell you the number of people who jump on a bandwagon just because they think it is cool to agree with a public figure. "Sheeple"... She has (or had) a venue from which she could exert tremendous influence...good bad or indifferent. Since she effectively manages to shut other voices out, there is no one to counter with another "View". Too many people no longer want to make decisions or do research. They simply want to be led. I think that is a bad thing.

farglebargle -> RE: Rosie O Gittin Down! (5/14/2007 6:35:48 PM)
I'm not sure I'd consider a show featuring pointless blather to be really a venue with any influence. I could be wrong. There are retards who listen to the most loony of the loons.

GoddessDustyGold -> RE: Rosie O Gittin Down! (5/14/2007 6:40:32 PM)
I would...Sad but true. And it is not only the show, but the amount of media she generates from her outrageous behavior on the show. It causes more people than ever to tune in or, at least, to get the word on what Rosie is saying on the show. As I said...sheeple.

Real0ne -> RE: Rosie O Gittin Down! (5/14/2007 8:57:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: farglebargle I'm not sure I'd consider a show featuring pointless blather to be really a venue with any influence. I could be wrong. There are retards who listen to the most loony of the loons. i suspect that you have a case here where rosie is voicing in her very loud voice what a lot of people are thinking. you know how you feel when your like the matrix, its all around and you can sense but not put a finger on it because you have researched nothing and things simply do not feel right. well when rosie stands on her soapbox and shouts very one down there are a lot of people in society who relate to this as the rating s would show. Especiually when she is connecting with that feeling they cannot quite explain. \ look at the guy from new yorks post above, thats frucking reality not this paddy cake paddy cake lets obsfuscate and blur everything till no can see anything that goes on in so many of these "educated" debates lol a lot of people simply know in their gut the reality and want somone like her to shout it from the rooftops for them because they too will be faced with hecklers as is any one else who does not go along with status quo and gov predicts. anyway you get the point.

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