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When is kneeling before you too soon? - 12/27/2005 2:52:50 PM

fastlane

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Should a slave/submissives meet you, learn what your about, get to know you before they kneel before you?
Do you respect them more, if they do? Or is it proper for one to e mail you that she is interested and kneeling before you and you respect her as much?
You have never met her...don't know her from The garden of Eve, holding up the apple and saying bite, but there she is, saying I kneel before you?"
Slave's, please chime in on this one, coz it confuses the hell out of me.
My .02 is this and I could be way off?
If she reads a post and is ready to kneel, she is either desperate, horny as hell, or she will kneel without comprehension of what it means to a Master and with little dignity to herself? Guess I'm old school!

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RE: When is kneeling before you too soon? - 12/27/2005 3:17:26 PM

amayos

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By virtue of the fact that first meetings often take place in public places, such as cafes or air ports, kneeling when they first see me isn't preferred, however I do expect a submissive to show proper etiquette when it is appropriate. Namely, the first time I have them in private.

Wether they should kneel before me or not too soon isn't ever up to debate; by the time I've deemed them worthy of an in-the-flesh meeting, they know perfectly well enough how lucky they are—and are expected to act accordingly.

If a girl randomly contacts me via e-mail or community message for the first time and proclaims immediate love and devotion (and that they are kneeling at that very moment whilst typing away), I certainly raise an eyebrow. I am very picky, and want to know my prospectives well enough before I entertain the idea of having them serve me.

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RE: When is kneeling before you too soon? - 12/27/2005 3:18:21 PM

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Okay look, I only said that because I wanted to blow you. JEEESH! Don't be presumptuous, mister.

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RE: When is kneeling before you too soon? - 12/27/2005 3:24:17 PM

fastlane

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sorry sensualips....You can!
However, I was referring to someone else......Geesh!
Too many kneeling girls.....not enough time?

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RE: When is kneeling before you too soon? - 12/27/2005 4:02:13 PM

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Personally, I would not kneel until I am ready to give the gift of my submission. That means respecting and trusting my dom. That of course doesn't mean that I wouldn't show respect before hand, but kneeling is a special act. So is the "L" word by the way, not somthing to throw around.
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RE: When is kneeling before you too soon? - 12/27/2005 4:20:24 PM

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It's the same as using honorifics- it should be done when everyon involved feels it is right for them.

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RE: When is kneeling before you too soon? - 12/27/2005 4:37:46 PM

fastlane

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Lenina..and...Emerald....
I agree...thank you for commenting.

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RE: When is kneeling before you too soon? - 12/27/2005 5:16:25 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: fastlane

Should a slave/submissives meet you, learn what your about, get to know you before they kneel before you?
Do you respect them more, if they do? Or is it proper for one to e mail you that she is interested and kneeling before you and you respect her as much?
You have never met her...don't know her from The garden of Eve, holding up the apple and saying bite, but there she is, saying I kneel before you?"
Slave's, please chime in on this one, coz it confuses the hell out of me.
My .02 is this and I could be way off?
If she reads a post and is ready to kneel, she is either desperate, horny as hell, or she will kneel without comprehension of what it means to a Master and with little dignity to herself? Guess I'm old school!

Peace, Kevin

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Personally, I would not kneel until I am ready to give the gift of my submission. That means respecting and trusting my dom. That of course doesn't mean that I wouldn't show respect before hand, but kneeling is a special act.

It was said perfectly. By the time it got to privacy, and one on one, in the flesh...the trust would be there.

LOL that's how long it takes me to trust someone...so, it would not be happening soon.

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RE: When is kneeling before you too soon? - 12/27/2005 8:49:27 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: fastlane

Should a slave/submissives meet you, learn what your about, get to know you before they kneel before you?
Do you respect them more, if they do? Or is it proper for one to e mail you that she is interested and kneeling before you and you respect her as much?
You have never met her...don't know her from The garden of Eve, holding up the apple and saying bite, but there she is, saying I kneel before you?"
Slave's, please chime in on this one, coz it confuses the hell out of me.
My .02 is this and I could be way off?
If she reads a post and is ready to kneel, she is either desperate, horny as hell, or she will kneel without comprehension of what it means to a Master and with little dignity to herself? Guess I'm old school!

Peace, Kevin

Speaking as a sub, I wouldn't kneel for just any stranger calling himself a Dom or Master and most certainly not before someone I have just met. For me to kneel before a Dom/Master I have to trust him and have chosen to submit to him fully, not something I do or take lightly. As others have said, I'd show respect to one, but to kneel means I submit.

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RE: When is kneeling before you too soon? - 12/27/2005 10:25:18 PM

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simply thing for me.... "Cheaply given is Cheaply Valued"

I expect to earned submission... as i expect they to earn my Dominance. It's a two street and if the price is too cheap well neither will value the relationship enough to endure the struggles that come. The more you invest, the more your willing to endure to have that lifetime of pleasures.

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RE: When is kneeling before you too soon? - 12/28/2005 1:37:45 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: KnightofMists
simply thing for me.... "Cheaply given is Cheaply Valued"

I expect to earned submission... as i expect they to earn my Dominance. It's a two street and if the price is too cheap well neither will value the relationship enough to endure the struggles that come. The more you invest, the more your willing to endure to have that lifetime of pleasures.

very aptly and succinctly said. it's to be earned on both sides if, and only if, the trust and honesty build the foundation for the relationship to get to that point where values are significant to both parties. always enjoy your insights, KnightofMists.

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RE: When is kneeling before you too soon? - 12/28/2005 4:34:45 AM

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I agree totally with the cheaply given thought if the kneeling is in offer of total devotion, almost as a beg to be noticed. But kneeling just like it's counterpart of a spoken title doesn't always mean one is throwing themselves at the feet of another. It's simply a form of respect, possibly one step beyond the use of a title, but non the less the meaning is conveyed.

Q

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RE: When is kneeling before you too soon? - 12/28/2005 6:00:12 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: KnightofMists
simply thing for me.... "Cheaply given is Cheaply Valued"

Which doesn't mean that just because you do it right away means it's cheaply valued. People use this argument against me all the time when it comes to casual sex- that I somehow much not value myself or my sexuality very much if I can do it so easily.

Couldn't be farther from the truth.

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RE: When is kneeling before you too soon? - 12/28/2005 7:00:04 AM

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imo, there should be a certain amount of getting to know each other in steps,,email here, personal email, im, then phone ,then meet in publice place(times for these steps may vary person to person)

but till i am actually at Masters feet, his hands in my hair looking up at him....i wont know...

i have ONLY knelt at the feet of and served ONE

this is the way it worked for me..........
but everybody is different

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RE: When is kneeling before you too soon? - 12/28/2005 8:14:49 AM

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Greetings..~smiles~

Hard to say..vary's from relationship to relationship. It is not something done lightly and holds much purpose and meaning for me personally. It was never and has never been something that was a conscious planning. When it was right to do so..it just came about.

starshine
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RE: When is kneeling before you too soon? - 12/28/2005 8:54:41 AM

justatoy2

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seeing how i have really bad knees, kneeling before someone better be for someone i really really like, and he better be prepared that im going to be down there a long time, cause one im down, its hard to get back up....

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RE: When is kneeling before you too soon? - 12/28/2005 9:53:02 AM

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quote:

I agree totally with the cheaply given thought if the kneeling is in offer of total devotion, almost as a beg to be noticed. But kneeling just like it's counterpart of a spoken title doesn't always mean one is throwing themselves at the feet of another. It's simply a form of respect, possibly one step beyond the use of a title, but non the less the meaning is conveyed.

As with all actions, it is not the action that is important but the meaning behind the action. Kneeling could mean so many different things.....from giving ones submission to the Dom, to giving respect to a Dom's position, to just being more comfortable kneeling on the floor (which i consider very comfy).

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RE: When is kneeling before you too soon? - 12/28/2005 10:08:42 AM

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quote:

As with all actions, it is not the action that is important but the meaning behind the action. Kneeling could mean so many different things.....from giving ones submission to the Dom, to giving respect to a Dom's position, to just being more comfortable kneeling on the floor (which i consider very comfy).

Exactly. I too am a floor person. I sit on the floor, I kneel on the floor, I lay on the floor...it really comes down to how you view this, and what is most comfortable for you at the given time.

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RE: When is kneeling before you too soon? - 12/28/2005 10:25:38 AM

nephandi

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In a vanilla relationship, when s kissing to soon, when is hugging apropriate? it waries from peron to person, i kissed on me and my fiancee`s first date and that turned out allright.

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RE: When is kneeling before you too soon? - 12/28/2005 2:14:21 PM

fastlane

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OMG....you kissed on the first date?
My mom would call you a slut.
I'd call you easy.
Where were you when I was in High School?

Damn, That is sooooo Hot!

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